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hey people I gotta take a second to tell

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called the THC money bomb what I do is

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every five episodes total up the

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donations I've gotten in that period of

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time a half keeps me in the show going I

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take the other half my gift that back to

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a random listener so far we're hitting

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about 500 each around and I couldn't be

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happier about it so consider thrown in

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five or ten bucks it's cheaper than a

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hand at the blackjack table with better

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odds and a scratch-off ticket plus you

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know half supports the show you like and

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at the very least half will go to a

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like-minded person who could probably

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use a nice surprise in these troubled

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times when you make a donation I can see

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your email address and that's how I pick

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the winner but to keep things kosher you

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can also get in the pool by sending your

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info on a postcard to me Greg Carl would

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p.o.box 635 223 San Diego California 92

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163 I got no subscription fees here no

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paid archives no paid bonus shows and I

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want to keep it that way on principle

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but I'm not a millionaire at the podcast

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on the side this is it for me and I'm

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the only one I know is trying to help

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the people out as well that's my man so

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help me help you if you want to play

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along go to the higher side chaste calm

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/ donate and get in the game dollars

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bitcoins it's all good to me and that's

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his movie version we're doing through

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the presentation all right iris that

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chatters drinking little drink smoking a

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little smoke from san diego i'm greg

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carl wood and man have I gotten a lot of

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emails and messages about the last show

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have to congratulate me on shedding the

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925 which I loved thank you everyone I

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hope you can all find your freedom as

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well and then half telling me how wrong

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Michael Rupert is wow the overwhelming

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and had all sorts of problems with the

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Rupert perspective but I like the guy

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and I think overall he's just in a place

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of acceptance rather than trying to

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change the world's habits and I can't

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blame him he's been fighting that fight

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a long time now that I forgave my

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freedom I should be able to put out more

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THC's and I would add one before this

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which would have been cool I had been

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talking to a guy who said a few Guinness

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to every country on the planet but he

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didn't like the show is labeled a

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conspiracy show and he wanted me to sign

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some document that said I wouldn't edit

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the show and if he didn't like how it

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turned out he would retain the rights to

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pull it and I just couldn't lose control

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the THC ship like that so [\h__\h] that guy

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go watch Discovery Channel and get just

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about the same thing I've interviewed so

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many people almost a hundred in the show

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at this point no one's ever asked me

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something like that I've had judge Jim

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Gray the vice presidential nominee for

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the libertarian ticket in the middle of

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the campaign and he didn't even ask

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about editing or controlling the content

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but anyway as for the Money bomb people

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this is the biggest one so far thank you

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for all the donations were at seven

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hundred and sixty two dollars which

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means i'm giving away at least three

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hundred eighty bucks to someone that's a

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big amount of money biggest one yet

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again so thanks and you can still donate

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up until Saturday the twenty-second for

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noun I'm going to have to pick a winner

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on Sunday and if you don't end up to

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that well it's just going to start the

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next round so no worries and I just want

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to get into this episode you know I

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don't like long intros but this is a

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little bit of a different kind of THC

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our main man Freeman fly was in a new

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movie called Don peyote the brainchild

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of Dan Fogler who's an actor I'm sure a

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lot of you have seen in movies before

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characters path down the conspiracy

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rabbit hole and then he gets inspired to

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film interviews with conspiracy

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researchers and authors which is exactly

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what I do so they were cool enough to

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send me a screener for the movie I liked

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it but the one I saw had a lot of

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the final movie is going to be even

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better dan came on the show to talk

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about the movie and his path of

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episode with Michael Rupert we needed

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something a bit lighter but I've got a

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lot of great shows coming out in march

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on booked solid we're going in some

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weird places and thanks to everybody for

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sticking with me on this trip I'm not

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going to waste any more time let's do

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alright people you and I both know that

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the Hollywood film medium is a powerful

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tool of influence generally used by the

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elite to distract and pacify the masses

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in between the mind numbing nine to five

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shifts at the office because who has the

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time or energy for a revolution where

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there's new robocop movie out but the 35

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millimeter knife cuts both ways and some

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people are tenacious enough to use that

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powerful medium to inform and inspire

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people in these troubled times today's

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guest is just such a guy Dan Fogler a

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genuine act or that you've seen in

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classics such as good luck Chuck balls

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of fury and fanboys has used some of his

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Hollywood capital to write direct

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produce and star in a new movie that

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draws attention to the conspiracy world

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in the path of awakening called Don

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peyote I know I'm psyched to have him

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here the pimp of pimps stand [\h__\h]

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was an amazing intro holy [\h__\h] dude like

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commercials something man so did you did

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you write that out no we can't dad yeah

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of course sometimes if that was off the

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cuff then I should be I don't know

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somewhere else okay thanks for doing it

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man i mean i know our mutual friend

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and he's shared and almost finished

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version of the movie with me which he's

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bit Alice in Wonderland but you know why

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don't you give the people the cliff

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notes to this story what's this thing

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about man oh that's delightful yeah I

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like the fear and loathing reference

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yeah all of the above i mean the the

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movie is essentially the modern prophet

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journey okay so you have this place guy

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named Warren almond whom is about to get

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uh married right before 2012 mm-hmm so

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he's he's been a lot of stress yeah you

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know and he's worried you know a lot of

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people around them we're telling him

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that something big was going to happen

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maybe it was the end maybe but you know

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definitely change was coming and he just

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gets wrapped up in that

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he just needs to get the answer like

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what the hell is coming I'm about to get

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married about a family like right I what

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the hell what am I getting myself into

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should i moved to like Costa Rica like

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what the hell are using the heart of New

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York and and so he's just kind of every

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man you know he has no purpose until he

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bumps into this and this near guy with

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his sign you know walking down the

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street who is you know the street

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prophet he walking bumps into this guy

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and he get so obsessed with you know

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what that is you know what's coming what

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the hell is planet x you know what you

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know he starts collecting all of these

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this information it's just collecting

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interviews like free men Daniel

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in the movie and you know he disclosed

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to all this it's a very simple journey

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goes to all these wise men to ask them

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for their advice you know what you know

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what should you do she and he goes to

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the basically the seven steps of

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preparation you know first he is just

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says seven but he didn't look right yeah

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she start he starts with the anxiety

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like oh my god it's too much oh my god

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the rabbit also like a deep it's crazy

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then he starts to say okay I'm gonna

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take control so he starts talking to

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different kind of people like you know

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people who would help him with

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self-defense and people who would help

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him to protect his family and then he's

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like you know now it's it then he goes

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to the phase of you know it's about you

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know you no compassion and love and then

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he starts going on that road you know

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and somewhere in the middle he goes nuts

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you know he is you get so overwhelmed

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with fear and what to do and the unknown

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that he goes off the deep end and he

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becomes you know this prophet Don peyote

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street prophet trying to preach peace

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and love and you know to the masses and

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try to turn the tide toward a change in

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TV she's like the hundredth monkey you

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know he's trying to Harold it the shift

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in consciousness so that's that's you

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know that's the movie in a nutshell

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that's the and it's got an amazing

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ask and you know making the movie was uh

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it was pretty life-changing yeah I mean

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you've done a lot of acting but I mean

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you were pretty involved in this I mean

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you wrote direct produced and starred on

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it I mean this isn't just kung fu panda

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effort into this is yeah no yeah no I

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this is my baby um because you know III

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made another film called hysterical

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psycho and I was just kind of like I was

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just dabbling I wasn't it'll be fun to

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direct something with my friends and

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then I really good kind of bitten by the

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bug and and and this was back in 2010

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and I was turning 33 and I think I was

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kind of having my you know like

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existential year you know and I started

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questioning really it started with I've

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always been a fan of conspiracy I love

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the Oliver Stone movies and I really I

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kind of got it to it through JFK like

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whoa like whoa thats you noticed you

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know that was my the conspiracy 101 was

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that movie and and it really it really

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brought a whole layered perspective to

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how our government works and oh my god

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you know like you know that's the

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president you know that they've got

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murdered and rise de shi and he and this

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is you know why there's such a huge

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conspiracy around it that they have to

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bury it for [\h__\h] 50 years like what

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you know and then then we and then I had

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my own special one my own special

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conspiracy would happen in my in my

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[\h__\h] backyard which was 911 and that

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was that was just crazy yeah you were in

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New York at the time right I was about

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15 blocks away from it at the time good

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god other yeah 15 20 blocks away so I

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saw it you know I could look out my

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window and see what the hell going on

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uh it was surreal and I was in a I just

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remember sitting on on the bed and

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looking at the TV just like everybody

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else you know who was like kind of

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shocked Absolut acai got soaked it you

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know a shock wave it woke me up and I

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turned on the TV and I'm watching the

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broadcast like everybody else and then I

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saw like certain discrepancies because I

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was [\h__\h] watching all my own eyes you

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know and I was like wait Nona wait what

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what do you mean it fell down already

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like it's right there oh really beer but

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at any angle whether you were watching

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it actually happened or you were

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watching on TV or both at the same time

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in my heart in my gut I was like wait

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that doesn't suck and look right it just

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doesn't look right yes I any like and

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was instantly in my brain I went to a

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Sesame Street when I was a little kid

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like watching them teach me a you know

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up and down and there was a construction

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guy and he would do a controlled

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demolition on some buildings and he hit

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a button and then reverse it and they

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play it forward reverse and go up down

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up down I remember there's a kid that

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was ingrained in my head and then I saw

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was going on wouldn't would the powers

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and has and I said what the [\h__\h] is it

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up down right now over there they're

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expecting us to buy this and and then

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you know I happen I had that feeling

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right away yeah and I think a lot of

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people did and then it wasn't then I any

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big I would turn to people and say you

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know hey everyone my question this like

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to think about the syndics from that

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just a mash is that possible that that

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happened just by having claims hit the

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building and you know and everyone just

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seemed to have bought the the mass of it

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and and then it wasn't until I saw loose

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change whereas holy [\h__\h] this [\h__\h]

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kid has dissected the whole situation

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here mm-hmm I'm not you know and there's

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a lot of people out there

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then over time it's become mainstream

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you know this questioning and then I

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started because of this question and you

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know there's like you know it's not

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Netflix and there's a couple different

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versions of absolutes changed now true

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so there were just so many different

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people out there enough people and I

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started to wonder like wow you know I'm

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not gonna digest and I just gonna let

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that go yeah it's tough okay if even if

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there's a fifty percent chance that

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that's a possibility that they just use

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this as cannon fodder mm-hmm they just

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use citizens like they were garbage if

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they just did if they just did that is

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that the kind of place I want to live in

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and I just want I think it's kind of a

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patriotic duty to try to get to the

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bottom of that of course man isn't it

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kind of funny that 911 truther has

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become a term like a negative term like

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wanting the truth is something to be

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scoffed at oh yeah everyone wants to

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keep the status quo and they've done

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very well in converting this into it's a

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sheep where someone gives you all the

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information many different angles you

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know they tell you look there's some

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discrepancies here and they open up the

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gate and they said let's come on run run

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to the other side with me and they just

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stay there because they get there they

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get there you know grasp every day they

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get there you know injection whatever

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the size i need to stay healthy you know

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and then so that's that's where r at and

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I'm there you know I know all this [\h__\h]

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and I'm not picking up my family running

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because because I'm lazy not because I

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kind of learned to this that it's if you

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can you really have a lot of control as

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an individual I'll do just just for the

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rest of the way you just fine by the way

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you think yeah and if you think that

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this [\h__\h] house is going to go up in

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flames then the [\h__\h] house will go up in

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flames but if you think that know

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everything will be cool and if you can

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surf this chaos

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kind of fun then then you can get by you

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know well man obviously with a name like

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Don peyote which is a pretty good name I

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love that name yeah psychedelics play a

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huge role in warrens awakening the movie

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but did you have any similar experiences

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that open your eyes in a similar way oh

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absolutely i mean you know the Pioneer

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gland I hope is on this digital organ

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it's powerful gland yeah but people talk

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about how it's getting it's not gone

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obviously we still have it for some

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reason it should be used but people I

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think there's been research that it's

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gotten smaller over over the centuries

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mm-hmm because of because of lack abuse

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so that sounds like Duvall being to me I

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guess I I don't know what that is some

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people in the conspiracy world also

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suggest that the fluoridation of water

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helps to calcify Neil who knows how much

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truth there is to it but that's

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definitely a popular thought no it's

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definitely a populist law here and um

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and I think it's a combination you know

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it's like it's like the Joker in the

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first Batman movie nordic he's like

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combining all of these different

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elements yeah to you know poison

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everybody I think that's what's going on

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I think that there's a mixture of you

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know different elements to try to help

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control population or think anything

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else keep us less sexually active in may

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even sterilized and people and

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indefinitely I think starts to cloud us

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to subdue us yeah and it's worked and TV

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and movies are a huge part of that it's

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a very powerful spell that they have

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cast on us and it's they're interesting

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universe that they that they have laid

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out for us you know it's a fun video

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game that we're playing here yeah but

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there's a lot there's a lot more to it

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than just stacking up bills and [\h__\h]

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as much as you can and and eating as

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much as you can and it's very fun it's

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fun but there's

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I think a lot of our prophets throughout

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the years I have talked about looking

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within yourself and finding the

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connection to everything and and and

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thus you know connecting to the to the

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collective and and gaining so much

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information where you feel like you're

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one was with everything and I mean that

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is really that's the unexplored

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territory [\h__\h] the ocean you know it's

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like it we we know that's my type

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they're doing that to your [\h__\h] the

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ocean to know whether they're [\h__\h]

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everything but I think that if more

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people started meditation and started

430
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mushrooms just yeah well hear ya on that

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tip I think that stuff like tht and

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mushrooms and stuff is Phyllis Ivan keep

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the pile gland nice and greased up and

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working and it's and I think that it's

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imperative I think that it's a part of

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our evolution I think that there was

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some hairy ass [\h__\h] ate several eons

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ago that picked up some interesting

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mushrooms and and that started up at the

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evolution is yeah Terence Mckenna theory

441
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yeah man I think that there's something

442
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to that because direct experience

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influences the shape your brain you can

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Einstein's brain it's like a whole other

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[\h__\h] thing you know Itzik said it's

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got a different shape so yes I totally

447
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believe that these that are piled Lana's

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here for to be used for a reason and I'm

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and I'm pretty short the majority of the

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population there's a lot of [\h__\h] use

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it they have like two they have like a

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DeLorean you know with a [\h__\h] and faster

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in in their head and they they don't

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know how to [\h__\h] start yeah they're

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scared of it yeah yeah and I'm scared of

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it man because I've had my taste of what

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it what it looks like and it's it's it's

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true

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frightening and you know I've done pick

460
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I I'm curious about D&T yeah I've done

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shrooms and I've gone I smoke pot and

462
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say I think that pot is kind of

463
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lubricating but lubrication for getting

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your chakras aligned yeah definitely

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yeah man I i I'm an advocate of such

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things and the because it's you know the

467
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dream molecule let me come on I'm an

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artist and trying to piss 22 in China

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experiment with the dream molecule so

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let the [\h__\h] coolest [\h__\h] the face

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of here and its effect so uh and and and

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it's great because DMT is like you oh my

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god the empty but it's like it sounds I

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think it's like when you're born if

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there's a tremendous amount of eating

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your brain when you dive in tremendous

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not and it seeps out when you go to

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sleep at night yeah and yeah and there's

479
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like you know you know everyone knows

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that there's a huge pharmacy of

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chemicals already in their brain that if

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they just knew how to activate it you

483
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and me you wouldn't need any drugs Ram

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yeah so one of those Zen spiritualists

485
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masters they there's a famous story of

486
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one guy who was going he was studying

487
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with some Buddhist monks and he was

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doing huge amounts of LSD and he was

489
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giving it to this monk and this monk is

490
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taking like three four times the dose

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that most people could take and he's

492
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like what is like this is how I live man

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i live in this in this family right it's

494
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a lot harder to do all the spiritual

495
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work though it's a lot easier to just

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dive in with some mushrooms well check

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it out the most blissful like crazy hi I

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ever had and I think you know everyone's

499
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trying to fire on the way I don't know

500
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what heroines like not yet but uh you

501
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know I on a pattern with you no no no

502
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well I'm more of the natural tennis

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among try to the naturals shelf there

504
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but I don't like well the the pills and

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chemicals but

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although ecstasy was pretty amazing and

507
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I and I met my wife on ecstasy good day

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too really the girl that I'm with right

509
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now we we had both wanted to try it and

510
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my buddy whose name happens to be Romeo

511
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gave us ecstasy friend of mine is very

512
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spirituals like look you got the magic

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love pill from Romeo this is meant to be

514
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crazy man and uh yeah I I advise it to

515
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anybody in a relationship yes perfect

516
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that's amazing them whoa synchronicity

517
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bexley that's this mess another

518
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synchronicity because and in over the

519
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course of this movie I I've learned to

520
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kind of like be baffled and amazed LexA

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Greene city and now i'm at the point of

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this like he had many chronicity as

523
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usual it's like it just you know speed

524
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leverages in the movie and he kind of

525
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coined the phrase he's from waking life

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and she joins the phrase that you know

527
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synchronicity as usual you know yeah uh

528
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yes I love that phrase because it's just

529
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it's like a magical and when I see it

530
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happen if you're on the right path they

531
00:24:00,130 --> 00:23:58,610
happen more and more and so many

532
00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:00,140
happened during the course of the movie

533
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,980
and and then when you see if I happen to

534
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:05,840
your loved ones because they're on their

535
00:24:11,169 --> 00:24:08,480
desi on your path and they're just so

536
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:11,179
surprised by it i love that like when

537
00:24:16,299 --> 00:24:13,250
you're going to use the puzzle people

538
00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:16,309
pieces fall in place so i mean that's

539
00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:19,880
that's distress he yeah well you know

540
00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:21,620
what you know what hold on i want to

541
00:24:24,730 --> 00:24:23,150
finish this thought i had because maybe

542
00:24:26,980 --> 00:24:24,740
you can help me find this guy yeah I

543
00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:26,990
sidetracked you go ahead the most

544
00:24:32,529 --> 00:24:29,809
blissful experience I had during the

545
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:32,539
course of this thing had very little to

546
00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:35,840
do with drugs I was in the middle of the

547
00:24:40,899 --> 00:24:37,460
process of making the movie and I was

548
00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:40,909
getting into meditation so I looked up

549
00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:42,620
this guy in the internet and I found

550
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:48,500
this guy called the hypno tryst ok since

551
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:50,570
I found this [\h__\h] guy I haven't been

552
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:53,690
able to find him again and maybe this

553
00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:55,850
will help this written you know this

554
00:24:59,410 --> 00:24:58,070
this announcement here interesting I'm

555
00:25:03,610 --> 00:24:59,420
trying to find the HIPAA

556
00:25:05,710 --> 00:25:03,620
and I met him actually met in person at

557
00:25:07,150 --> 00:25:05,720
a party at Daniel Pinchbeck so I'm

558
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:07,160
Daniel Pinchbeck truth I'm sitting there

559
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:08,690
looking like holding shipping the guy

560
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:12,710
and he he's very distinct because you

561
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:15,770
could see he was at the time he wore

562
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:18,050
these like crazy aviator goggles that

563
00:25:23,710 --> 00:25:22,010
were like tinted red anyway Wow alright

564
00:25:25,270 --> 00:25:23,720
people if you can find the hip noticed

565
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:25,280
you got to let me know and I'll let dan

566
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:28,640
know we got to find this guy you hear

567
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:31,130
find them then you know where are you by

568
00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:35,330
the way where I'm in San Diego okay cool

569
00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:39,500
so anyway so I'm looking on the internet

570
00:25:45,490 --> 00:25:41,420
I find a hypnotist I start going through

571
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:45,500
this basically this just breathing

572
00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:47,210
exercise with and meditation breathing I

573
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:51,190
said in the nose cold and you visualize

574
00:25:57,610 --> 00:25:55,760
your third eye as like you close your

575
00:26:00,220 --> 00:25:57,620
eyes and visualize your third eye as

576
00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:00,230
kind of like a spinning blue diamonds

577
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:03,500
right so I'm doing this I'm breathing

578
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:07,130
and cold and I'm spinning my blue

579
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,770
diamond certai one way and then I'm

580
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:11,600
breathing out warm all out of my nose

581
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:15,410
and and if you spend the blue diamond

582
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:18,290
the opposite way right and when it with

583
00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:20,510
the warm air ok so it's cold air one way

584
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:23,900
warm air the other way going out and we

585
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:27,410
wouldn't be so far yeah I gotcha ok cool

586
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,050
so so I'm doing this I don't know how

587
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:31,760
long I'm doing is maybe like 5-10

588
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:34,370
minutes and I start to feel I start to

589
00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:38,450
feel my my Kundalini energy well just

590
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:43,700
rising rising the [\h__\h] up my body it was

591
00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:47,980
so overwhelming and I maybe had some pot

592
00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:51,500
you know of course earlier that earlier

593
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,860
that day you know like hours before this

594
00:26:59,170 --> 00:26:56,720
is at night I like woke up in the middle

595
00:27:01,360 --> 00:26:59,180
of night it's like I think was like 4am

596
00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:01,370
or something and I and I just wanted to

597
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:05,960
try this thing and I'm gonna I'm in the

598
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:07,970
dark and I'm doing this and I and I feel

599
00:27:13,049 --> 00:27:12,320
the energy rising of my body totally it

600
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:13,059
feels like

601
00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:16,960
um encompassing every single cell of my

602
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:22,470
body okay this overwhelming wave of a

603
00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:25,809
powerful toxin blissful energy what I

604
00:27:33,779 --> 00:27:31,960
think that it must feel like to go to

605
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:33,789
heaven I don't know like like you know

606
00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:35,769
when you when you go into the light and

607
00:27:40,129 --> 00:27:38,679
you go into the white light or whenever

608
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:40,139
the people club let people talk about

609
00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:43,330
this overwhelming feeling of just love

610
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:46,990
and and if so like it felt like a

611
00:27:51,539 --> 00:27:49,450
million gallons of heroin I don't know

612
00:27:53,549 --> 00:27:51,549
what the [\h__\h] right but it's just like

613
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:53,559
any was so overwhelming I couldn't do it

614
00:27:59,399 --> 00:27:57,519
for more than 30 seconds ok I had to

615
00:28:02,430 --> 00:27:59,409
open my eyes I had to like shake it off

616
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:02,440
and slowly gradually went down yeah yeah

617
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:06,940
I had a little and the guy says Hitler

618
00:28:10,379 --> 00:28:09,070
says now if you had an experience you're

619
00:28:12,509 --> 00:28:10,389
going to be chasing that for the rest of

620
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:12,519
your life you know because now you're

621
00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:13,990
going to be looking for you know I

622
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,460
didn't know what the [\h__\h] to expect and

623
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:17,440
this thing happened like my shot was a

624
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:20,350
line and that was and I was I was

625
00:28:25,619 --> 00:28:23,350
[\h__\h] connected man and the feeling

626
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:25,629
was just so overwhelming and it was

627
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:27,970
always better than anyone I've ever had

628
00:28:35,639 --> 00:28:32,769
in my life yeah and yeah so I think it's

629
00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:35,649
worth trying to find this guy again and

630
00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:37,389
I bet I like I said I look on the

631
00:28:42,419 --> 00:28:40,059
internet I can't find him but I did meet

632
00:28:45,299 --> 00:28:42,429
him at this party at pinch specs on the

633
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:45,309
roof and I was like dude we have to like

634
00:28:48,570 --> 00:28:46,809
exchange information and it just never

635
00:28:51,169 --> 00:28:48,580
happened for some reason and that was

636
00:28:53,970 --> 00:28:51,179
like another like weird [\h__\h]

637
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,980
synchronicity yeah you know and all

638
00:28:57,509 --> 00:28:55,600
these things are just tied together what

639
00:28:59,580 --> 00:28:57,519
do you think about that man was you ever

640
00:29:01,919 --> 00:28:59,590
had an experience like oh we're you had

641
00:29:04,769 --> 00:29:01,929
just like overwhelming blissful life

642
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:04,779
love energy talking to your body well

643
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:07,840
then I've done I've had some experiences

644
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:10,210
like that on salvia and I have done DMT

645
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:11,860
and which was also pretty amazing but

646
00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:14,950
I'm kind of spiritually [\h__\h] i

647
00:29:19,499 --> 00:29:17,799
cannot get anything out of meditation I

648
00:29:20,909 --> 00:29:19,509
don't seem too I want to and I know

649
00:29:22,919 --> 00:29:20,919
there's a lot of guys out there I

650
00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:22,929
respect a lot of speakers and guests

651
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:25,880
I've had that are in that wheelhouse but

652
00:29:30,730 --> 00:29:28,490
for me unless it's an induced by some

653
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,740
psychedelic I haven't been able to get

654
00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:32,000
there maybe I just haven't put enough

655
00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:33,800
focus and attention on it but it's

656
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:36,260
pretty inspiring and interesting to hear

657
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:38,330
you say that you know you did it without

658
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:40,610
it seems like that was I mean did you

659
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:42,230
have much meditation experience before

660
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:43,970
that or is that one of your first major

661
00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:47,390
attempts uh I obviously think that I was

662
00:29:51,010 --> 00:29:49,100
kind of like a natural added when I was

663
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:51,020
a kid like I think when I was a little

664
00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:53,330
kid I used to just naturally kind of

665
00:29:58,690 --> 00:29:55,940
sometimes go into a hypnotic state or

666
00:30:02,170 --> 00:29:58,700
meditative state and it kind of float

667
00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:02,180
around the astral for a little bit you

668
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:05,180
know but i didn't i didn't have a lot of

669
00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:06,470
control over and i didn't know what the

670
00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:07,700
[\h__\h] I was doing and then I lost control

671
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:10,460
over over years now no one educates us

672
00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:15,110
online stuff yeah and then uh and then

673
00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:18,800
as I've gotten back into it I I have

674
00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:22,040
crazy [\h__\h] dreams man but and I

675
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:23,780
always just paralleled in the movie

676
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:26,210
mm-hmm I'm used to be like my character

677
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:27,890
worn in the movie goes nuts obviously

678
00:30:35,410 --> 00:30:31,990
you know I turned up the dial on his

679
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:35,420
psychosis and neurosis and passionate

680
00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:37,970
about this particular subject but you

681
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:39,620
know a lot of it is reflected in my life

682
00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:41,450
obviously I didn't go off at the event i

683
00:30:46,030 --> 00:30:43,660
was able to maintain control as well

684
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:46,040
after you know going through certain

685
00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:48,710
experiences like you know the Bliss wave

686
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:50,600
in the [\h__\h] you know opening up

687
00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:53,840
shoppers and then trying fun

688
00:31:00,970 --> 00:30:58,040
psychedelics like Matassa door ayahuasca

689
00:31:05,050 --> 00:31:00,980
or something you know there was this was

690
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:05,060
a huge journey that that I it was a

691
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:09,410
three year journey making this movie and

692
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:11,570
a lot of stuff happened over the course

693
00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:15,290
of it and and I and I think that the

694
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:16,460
other people that were involved in the

695
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:18,710
movie were also you know kind of went on

696
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:21,110
this this journey with me or are in a

697
00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:24,890
totally different peaceful crazy place

698
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:28,550
now I mean you know I mean a lot of I

699
00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:30,110
made a lot of great friends on this like

700
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:34,220
like like Freeman yeah it was you know

701
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:38,090
an amazing just a trip just to be around

702
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:39,770
himself like you

703
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:43,570
he's a blast and I was surprised it and

704
00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:45,770
well I don't want to drop it I was

705
00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:47,300
surprised yeah I was really surprised to

706
00:31:52,510 --> 00:31:50,180
see Anne Hathaway in that movie kind of

707
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:52,520
caught me off guard well that's what it

708
00:31:56,860 --> 00:31:55,130
should do because you know Jesus

709
00:32:01,600 --> 00:31:56,870
spending mine and she she did it as a

710
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:01,610
favor and but it's it's that's what it's

711
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:05,210
meant to do you know she the movie a

712
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:08,930
couple times you have people like and

713
00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:12,110
you have Josh Kemal in it and you have

714
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:17,150
Topher Grace and in Jay Baruchel yeah

715
00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:19,610
he's cool and you know every time and

716
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:22,190
every time like he is cool and every

717
00:32:30,010 --> 00:32:25,010
time you use you know see one of these

718
00:32:34,270 --> 00:32:30,020
kind of mainstream people that's that's

719
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:34,280
my little way of like you know breaking

720
00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:37,730
the fourth wall or you know that's

721
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:40,840
that's kind of like how Hollywood

722
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:43,340
tapping on the shoulder and saying yes

723
00:32:49,030 --> 00:32:45,950
this is a this is also seeping into your

724
00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:49,040
reality like you know and and and that's

725
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:52,580
you know and shows up in his dream it's

726
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:54,290
supposed to be kind of shocking you like

727
00:33:00,580 --> 00:32:58,130
wait whoa whoa whoa hold on yeah Ziggy

728
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:00,590
yeah you know so I think and then

729
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:02,630
another great moment in the movie is

730
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,080
when this is one of my favorite moments

731
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:08,720
when went ofer makes his appearance

732
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:11,330
there's a lot of different cameos topher

733
00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:13,490
grace makes his appearance and he's it's

734
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:16,700
during this like very trippy part of the

735
00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:19,640
movie where my character has noticed the

736
00:33:24,610 --> 00:33:22,670
audience and I'm I just escaped from the

737
00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:24,620
same solemn and I'm like I noticed the

738
00:33:28,570 --> 00:33:26,840
audience and I start talking directly to

739
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:28,580
the audience saying like what the [\h__\h]

740
00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:30,650
what the [\h__\h] looking at this is my

741
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:32,840
life you laughing it and then during

742
00:33:37,180 --> 00:33:34,940
that moment which is already breaking

743
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:37,190
the fourth wall we break the fifth wall

744
00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:40,730
and Topher come come in as my agent

745
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:42,800
watching this moment in the movies bit

746
00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:47,000
late so I am focusing be like wow ya

747
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,400
know about a choice will she you know he

748
00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:50,960
wrote it he wrote the me there

749
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:52,940
you know it's what I love that point was

750
00:33:58,750 --> 00:33:57,110
good as a trippy get it yeah I was

751
00:34:00,730 --> 00:33:58,760
trying to break you like feel buddy

752
00:34:03,549 --> 00:34:00,740
walls we could break through and they

753
00:34:04,930 --> 00:34:03,559
love it when you see this movie and you

754
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,940
see some of those bigger names in it

755
00:34:08,859 --> 00:34:07,039
what shocks me about it is that they

756
00:34:10,270 --> 00:34:08,869
would put themselves in a movie with

757
00:34:12,099 --> 00:34:10,280
this type of content you know their

758
00:34:14,169 --> 00:34:12,109
Terence Mckenna had a quote saying like

759
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:14,179
the more you wake up the more isolated

760
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:17,300
you become and I kind of find that it's

761
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:19,129
it's weird like did you find that this

762
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:21,050
was a like a risky choice for your

763
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:23,290
career did any of these people have

764
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:25,310
reservations about being in this type of

765
00:34:33,339 --> 00:34:30,290
movie well obviously they didn't well I

766
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:33,349
mean we'll see what kind of you know

767
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:35,210
what happens when it comes out and kind

768
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:38,330
of associations are made or maybe people

769
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:43,210
will see that you know well the

770
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:46,060
mainstream people who are actually

771
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:48,770
driving this world yeah it'll give them

772
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:51,369
the okay to go on their own journey

773
00:34:58,329 --> 00:34:53,810
exactly so and that was part of the

774
00:35:01,140 --> 00:34:58,339
whole thing with the you know given the

775
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:01,150
given sugar with the medicine because

776
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:04,310
it's in trying to open people's minds at

777
00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:06,710
least just questioning you know the

778
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:09,140
reality reality that's presented before

779
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:13,730
us and and I knew that the best way to

780
00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:15,410
get it out there was to you know get

781
00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:16,940
these people in the movie and get some

782
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:19,640
you know as they say you know they're

783
00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:22,010
everyone cares about the posters are you

784
00:35:26,770 --> 00:35:24,830
know the faces on the poster and so I

785
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:26,780
knew I had to kind of play in that in

786
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:29,660
that world in order to get the message

787
00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:31,910
out and they're all amazing people I me

788
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:34,040
know they've only got involved all them

789
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:36,790
were friends of mine just little

790
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:40,430
capsules of situations like I've had you

791
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:43,609
know times I'm fanboys when I met Jay

792
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:45,890
Baer show or no we would just go down to

793
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:48,170
conspiracy rabbit hole you know that's

794
00:35:52,270 --> 00:35:50,240
awesome you know just just talking and

795
00:35:55,390 --> 00:35:52,280
he's already on that tip and he can just

796
00:35:58,140 --> 00:35:55,400
improvise about that for days so you

797
00:36:02,500 --> 00:35:58,150
know he's he was created in the movie

798
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:02,510
Annie was you know on the front lines of

799
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:04,130
Occupy Wall Street and

800
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:07,670
and you know I was on CNN man like she's

801
00:36:15,010 --> 00:36:12,800
like out there josh Josh Duhamel I did

802
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:15,020
scenic route with him there were there

803
00:36:19,530 --> 00:36:16,370
were some nights we were talking about

804
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:19,540
you know we were out in death valley and

805
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:22,850
there was a lot of like you know

806
00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:24,890
underground military stuff around ya

807
00:36:30,850 --> 00:36:27,950
around bases underground bases and

808
00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:30,860
beiges and mountains and and so there

809
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:32,420
was a lot of talk about that out ago

810
00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:35,120
this is this guy so that he was in the

811
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:37,670
movie so you know everybody is kind and

812
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:39,770
I still can either universal thing like

813
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:42,410
people are just you know you're smart

814
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:47,210
and they anyone anyone that could invent

815
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:48,920
the Rubik's Cube and know how to [\h__\h]

816
00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:52,970
solve it you know it is out here and and

817
00:36:59,500 --> 00:36:56,950
wondering you know about the puzzle of

818
00:37:02,440 --> 00:36:59,510
of the reality that's presented to us

819
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,450
and the layers the many layers that go

820
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:04,880
beyond what we see look I think about

821
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:09,320
like Al Gore was on Letterman and this

822
00:37:14,830 --> 00:37:11,000
is [\h__\h] Letterman man you know

823
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:14,840
everyone watchin it yeah and Al Gore Al

824
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,370
Gore is asked so how much do you underst

825
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:21,680
you know about what's going on behind

826
00:37:25,150 --> 00:37:22,970
the scenes you know you would vice

827
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:25,160
president you know how much did you know

828
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:27,800
about what we're going on and he said

829
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,820
about forty percent thirty percent and

830
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:33,920
40 yeah Wow and then so this is good

831
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:35,270
kind of like a silent from the audience

832
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:38,210
and Letterman's kind of like shock for a

833
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:41,290
second is like whoa okay well what about

834
00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:43,250
about the president how much to eat

835
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:46,580
[\h__\h] know what's going on behind closed

836
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:49,610
doors and and Al Gore said all about

837
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:52,970
fifty percent wow so he's like the

838
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:54,770
[\h__\h] president notes fifty percent

839
00:38:01,300 --> 00:37:57,530
yes display that on national TV is

840
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:01,310
pretty bold it's free danball you know

841
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:04,250
and put aside it's out there I mean it's

842
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:07,490
alvin our sin and that's why I think

843
00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:11,390
that it was it was ok for for these

844
00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:13,160
particular people to be part of the

845
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:15,740
movie because I think they take risks

846
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:18,130
anyway with their choices

847
00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:20,570
because the good actors in the good

848
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:23,660
artists and and yeah man this is like

849
00:38:28,510 --> 00:38:26,450
this is a movie that you you tell you

850
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,520
won't talk about afterwards there's so

851
00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:31,280
many movies we see we're just numbers us

852
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,320
for two hours and I mean and we just

853
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:35,839
talk about like what kind of [\h__\h] you

854
00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:38,060
guys want to get dessert you're like

855
00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:41,140
that guy yeah he was good again okay

856
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:45,070
right who wants a tactic you know yeah

857
00:38:50,109 --> 00:38:47,810
like a lot of the big something that

858
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:50,119
made people think because I was in a

859
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:51,770
perpetual state of thinking about this

860
00:38:57,790 --> 00:38:55,310
[\h__\h] yeah um let's go let me switch

861
00:38:59,290 --> 00:38:57,800
gears on you a little bit here um you

862
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:59,300
know once you wake up to the control

863
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:01,040
grid and the truth about the banking

864
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:02,810
system at least for me it's it was

865
00:39:06,730 --> 00:39:05,270
really hard to work a typical job it was

866
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,740
hard to be a cog in the consumerism

867
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:09,680
machine and the dream became finding a

868
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:11,210
way to make a living of some type of

869
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:13,609
creative in Denver and now i'm lucky

870
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:14,750
enough that that's happened with this

871
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:16,670
show I literally quit the corporate

872
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:18,260
world less than 30 days ago so it's

873
00:39:21,609 --> 00:39:19,670
interesting timing to be talking to

874
00:39:24,339 --> 00:39:21,619
another artist of sorts who escaped that

875
00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:24,349
trap too but uh tell me about like the

876
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:26,150
early days of your career what was the

877
00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:28,490
last [\h__\h] job you worked where were

878
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:29,660
you ever worried about what you were

879
00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:31,130
going to do with your life how'd you get

880
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:34,460
started in all this yeah when I got out

881
00:39:39,579 --> 00:39:37,550
of college you know they don't prepare

882
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:39,589
you they teach you how to do Shakespeare

883
00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:42,530
he said if you check off but and they

884
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:44,060
teach you like a million [\h__\h] sonnets

885
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:48,560
but you know you look you know they make

886
00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:50,770
you run around in tights but they do not

887
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:53,150
teach you how to be a good

888
00:39:58,540 --> 00:39:55,700
businessperson and sell yourself because

889
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:58,550
you're selling yourself as I you know I

890
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:02,240
said sure commodity so I got out of

891
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,510
college and I like with living at home

892
00:40:12,099 --> 00:40:08,720
with my folks I'm like my I wasn't

893
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:12,109
sleeping my eye was twitching because i

894
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:14,270
was getting those sleep and i was going

895
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:17,690
out of [\h__\h] auditions every day just

896
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:19,940
to like get it I was not in Union you

897
00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:23,390
know just to get a job to the [\h__\h] you

898
00:40:28,570 --> 00:40:26,349
know just to do it and then I was like

899
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:28,580
you know I've been I started like making

900
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:30,170
stuff with my friends I got we got to

901
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:31,870
make stuff to showcase us

902
00:40:36,610 --> 00:40:34,250
so we would do you know black box

903
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:36,620
theater and that Matty and then I was

904
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:39,050
like man this is like really this this

905
00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:43,010
is slow going I had backstage man you

906
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:44,990
know magazine on power my was going to

907
00:40:51,580 --> 00:40:49,310
you know non-paying auditions doing as

908
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:51,590
much indie film as I possibly could

909
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,230
stupid I I when I got out of college I

910
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,240
did so much student film in college I

911
00:41:00,850 --> 00:40:58,640
was like I can't do another student film

912
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:00,860
I just did after I got out of school

913
00:41:06,010 --> 00:41:03,170
it's a slow like anything independent

914
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,020
that would pay you know so I made

915
00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:09,040
certain parameters for myself I i

916
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:12,140
started doing stand-up comedy like I I

917
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:16,190
wish daya I think you know 99 percent of

918
00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:18,290
the time I was incredibly fun and

919
00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:20,270
they're like one percent of the time

920
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:24,200
it's [\h__\h] suck because it's like it's

921
00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:25,910
you against everybody like you don't

922
00:41:32,050 --> 00:41:29,150
have any allies right with your peers

923
00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:32,060
and then I got into improv because that

924
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:35,990
was more like playing with people you

925
00:41:39,820 --> 00:41:37,550
know did you c d and stuff like that and

926
00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:39,830
then when i when i started doing

927
00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:42,200
stand-up that's when I got my manager as

928
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:44,780
my source representation and that's

929
00:41:47,950 --> 00:41:46,670
really that tag to get your your foot in

930
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:47,960
the door because they start to getting

931
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,090
you like bigger gigs where you can be

932
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:51,440
seen like one of the first things I did

933
00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:54,800
was I don't think I got paid I don't

934
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:56,270
even know if I was Union I think I may

935
00:42:04,930 --> 00:42:01,280
be became Union when I did a typo the

936
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:04,940
type of negative video and so I did that

937
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:07,360
and then so that started going around

938
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:12,770
and then yeah but I you know I did a lot

939
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,210
of theater so if that was like a eight

940
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:20,720
years long process Wow where I was just

941
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:22,610
[\h__\h] running around beating the

942
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:25,640
streets trying to get known and it

943
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:31,040
wasn't until I was I think 26 or 27 that

944
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:34,640
I that I did the spelling bee show we

945
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:37,760
started developing that so basically

946
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:41,450
started a a bunch of friends got

947
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:47,859
show and the based on a spelling bee was

948
00:42:53,289 --> 00:42:51,890
all improvised we created characters and

949
00:42:54,789 --> 00:42:53,299
we started before him in the show and

950
00:42:56,289 --> 00:42:54,799
the black box leader just like you know

951
00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:56,299
and no you don't know what the [\h__\h]

952
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,430
going to catch on this thing caught on

953
00:43:02,279 --> 00:43:00,319
we did it like like several times people

954
00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:02,289
kept coming back I love the characters

955
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:05,180
finally you know when you watch the

956
00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:10,190
scene got involved and and then you know

957
00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:13,880
Bill Finn made it into a musical and you

958
00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:16,190
know james lepine directed it I mean

959
00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:20,180
that's like for me being a fan of

960
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:22,430
theater and musical theatre having done

961
00:43:28,089 --> 00:43:24,260
musical theater in high school and like

962
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:28,099
into the woods and [\h__\h] you know you

963
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:31,160
have james lepine directing you it said

964
00:43:37,210 --> 00:43:34,910
well okay I just had this is like this

965
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:37,220
is a dream come true and the whole that

966
00:43:42,099 --> 00:43:38,690
whole process was a dream come true i

967
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:42,109
basically we it just had legs you know

968
00:43:46,539 --> 00:43:44,270
when off-broadway went to Broadway I

969
00:43:49,859 --> 00:43:46,549
want a Tony Award and then that was it I

970
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:49,869
I basically let a door got opened up and

971
00:43:55,779 --> 00:43:53,390
yeah someone said hey you want to be the

972
00:43:58,809 --> 00:43:55,789
movie with Chris Walken oh yeah yeah

973
00:44:00,579 --> 00:43:58,819
they're short short like you wear short

974
00:44:05,230 --> 00:44:00,589
shorts in a shimmery jacket you still

975
00:44:07,779 --> 00:44:05,240
want to do it yeah but yeah I was a

976
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:07,789
sweet in the candy store yeah man I'm a

977
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,770
huge walk-in fan what was that like

978
00:44:14,980 --> 00:44:11,440
working with him is he pretty cool uh

979
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:14,990
he's brilliant man you know I was a huge

980
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:17,390
fan of him anytime I was upset with him

981
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:20,510
I was just trying to get in to say [\h__\h]

982
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:25,970
it because I did love him talk and so it

983
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:27,890
took it took every ounce of my being not

984
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:31,119
to do with my impression of him for him

985
00:44:38,589 --> 00:44:36,170
and he said I asked him I was like I'd

986
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:38,599
like do what's it like that everybody

987
00:44:43,029 --> 00:44:41,210
and your grandma has an impression of

988
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:43,039
you like wherever you go everyone for

989
00:44:47,289 --> 00:44:45,650
the walk repression like i wanna i have

990
00:44:50,349 --> 00:44:47,299
you to present that i want to be right

991
00:44:54,370 --> 00:44:50,359
now I won't do I think that he's just

992
00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:54,380
like he's just like it's fine you know

993
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:57,950
it's like but he's like but never do it

994
00:45:02,710 --> 00:44:59,210
before

995
00:45:06,910 --> 00:45:02,720
hey and I'd be like yeah he's like it

996
00:45:11,740 --> 00:45:06,920
annoys me it really like even he said

997
00:45:15,310 --> 00:45:11,750
jay mohr Kimmel here we want to do all

998
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:15,320
time they do before cake come on T kill

999
00:45:21,970 --> 00:45:19,190
him you know thanks yes tell me more and

1000
00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:21,980
then he yeah he had all his these

1001
00:45:29,770 --> 00:45:26,300
amazing stories and you know just sad my

1002
00:45:31,089 --> 00:45:29,780
god I I wanna mad about making movies

1003
00:45:35,020 --> 00:45:31,099
you know I want to put in and everything

1004
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,030
and you know he's he's he's brilliant

1005
00:45:41,170 --> 00:45:38,800
yeah I'm he's a hero so you know what

1006
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:41,180
well if someone out there you know if

1007
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:42,410
someone listening is if there's third

1008
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:44,270
dream to be an actor or director but

1009
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,730
they're stuck at some shitty job working

1010
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:48,800
at Red Lobster foot locker or wherever

1011
00:45:52,839 --> 00:45:50,930
the [\h__\h] I mean what's your advice to

1012
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,849
really get them going like to not give

1013
00:45:56,650 --> 00:45:55,040
up on that um you know that creative

1014
00:45:58,750 --> 00:45:56,660
passion because if you give up on it and

1015
00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:58,760
you just do that [\h__\h] job for like

1016
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:00,680
four or five decades I mean what are you

1017
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:04,490
living for really you know um yeah

1018
00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:08,510
anytime like from the acting actors

1019
00:46:14,589 --> 00:46:11,750
point of view whenever my friends are

1020
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:14,599
like man I'm like it's tough I'm Muslim

1021
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,089
I gotta hang up my hat I gotta head and

1022
00:46:23,710 --> 00:46:19,599
I'm not good at it I always say like

1023
00:46:26,349 --> 00:46:23,720
yeah then [\h__\h] do it go good live

1024
00:46:28,810 --> 00:46:26,359
life get less experienced do your

1025
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,820
smoking thing because that only adds to

1026
00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:32,000
your ability if and when you want to

1027
00:46:41,050 --> 00:46:37,160
come back and and I was doing up George

1028
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,060
see Scott who was [\h__\h] in his 50s was

1029
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:43,280
an actor went to the army digging

1030
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:47,510
ditches you know for corpses and sitting

1031
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:49,070
there just [\h__\h] killed himself and

1032
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:51,050
said you know [\h__\h] this I'm what it'll

1033
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:52,550
be an actor and then became one of the

1034
00:47:00,820 --> 00:46:56,690
greatest actors ever yeah you know you

1035
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:00,830
just never give up because its life yes

1036
00:47:06,579 --> 00:47:04,490
it's life life is that's just how it is

1037
00:47:08,410 --> 00:47:06,589
and every single one of your favorite

1038
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:08,420
people were there at some point in their

1039
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:10,970
life we're sitting on some [\h__\h] you

1040
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:12,950
know desk

1041
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:15,290
vnr some [\h__\h] grill that they really

1042
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:17,570
want to [\h__\h] be at and talking to the

1043
00:47:23,890 --> 00:47:20,930
man and that only fueled them to become

1044
00:47:26,290 --> 00:47:23,900
who they are and so just you just

1045
00:47:28,210 --> 00:47:26,300
[\h__\h] use it it's just the way it is

1046
00:47:30,490 --> 00:47:28,220
and you know I've had a lot of ups and

1047
00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:30,500
downs on my journey here and I wouldn't

1048
00:47:36,130 --> 00:47:33,230
take back any of it it makes it makes

1049
00:47:39,579 --> 00:47:36,140
you in you know if you can give you

1050
00:47:41,230 --> 00:47:39,589
character yeah and some yeah it's

1051
00:47:43,690 --> 00:47:41,240
definitely tough I mean a lot of people

1052
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:43,700
feel trapped under debt you know living

1053
00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:45,950
paycheck to paycheck they just got to

1054
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:48,470
keep treading water and to take the time

1055
00:47:53,290 --> 00:47:50,720
to go into some creative and Denver

1056
00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:53,300
almost seems just too daunting to

1057
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:54,500
overwhelming I mean things are pretty

1058
00:47:59,500 --> 00:47:57,530
[\h__\h] yeah well so then I mean that's a

1059
00:48:01,960 --> 00:47:59,510
story worth telling and write about

1060
00:48:05,020 --> 00:48:01,970
yourself the biggest Nick [\h__\h] to

1061
00:48:07,810 --> 00:48:05,030
make the next clerks yeah make this

1062
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,820
listen and check it out there's no

1063
00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:09,440
excuse you got a [\h__\h] camera in your

1064
00:48:15,819 --> 00:48:12,440
phone you know che yeah they didn't have

1065
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,829
that back in the day well then there's

1066
00:48:21,130 --> 00:48:18,079
cameras everywhere and their cheeks and

1067
00:48:23,950 --> 00:48:21,140
you can you could you can make the next

1068
00:48:26,349 --> 00:48:23,960
great documentary like in your spare

1069
00:48:29,309 --> 00:48:26,359
time while you're working if you have

1070
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:29,319
the passion but it's like man it's like

1071
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:32,329
making the film it's like birthing a

1072
00:48:39,579 --> 00:48:37,010
baby it's it's very exhausting and you

1073
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:39,589
have to be able to to have that

1074
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,510
endurance to go to distance to complete

1075
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:43,599
something because each one is a [\h__\h]

1076
00:48:53,650 --> 00:48:50,150
it's it's a it's a trick yeah and simply

1077
00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:53,660
simply because it's it's creative second

1078
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,819
and business first a lot of the time

1079
00:49:00,190 --> 00:48:57,920
when you're trying to make these things

1080
00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:00,200
yeah and I mean I don't want to get all

1081
00:49:04,569 --> 00:49:02,390
entertainment tonight on you but how I

1082
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:04,579
like fanboys and you seem like a Star

1083
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:05,810
Wars phantom how do you feel about these

1084
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:07,609
new Star Wars movies i wonder if I mean

1085
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:09,050
the way things are in this country I

1086
00:49:13,770 --> 00:49:10,609
hope we can see the new Star Wars

1087
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:13,780
trilogy before everything collapses oh

1088
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:17,180
yeah I think well I think we'll be okay

1089
00:49:23,819 --> 00:49:20,000
this will be okay I think we'll get

1090
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:23,829
every seven number seven that's good I

1091
00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:26,930
look man I want to be in it I know

1092
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:29,390
being that I think ginger this is

1093
00:49:35,980 --> 00:49:33,530
awesome yeah I've settled this to be

1094
00:49:39,339 --> 00:49:35,990
like the voice of a droid or something

1095
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:39,349
yeah I don't give a [\h__\h] I'd like to be

1096
00:49:44,799 --> 00:49:41,780
I'd like to be like I'd like to be Dan

1097
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:44,809
solo I'd like to me you know hands

1098
00:49:51,010 --> 00:49:49,010
cousin or some [\h__\h] but you had that

1099
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:51,020
same relaxin clout you could choose your

1100
00:49:56,980 --> 00:49:52,730
own lightsaber color you could do all

1101
00:50:00,940 --> 00:49:56,990
that [\h__\h] yeah man I don't do it if I i

1102
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:00,950
I'd throw some weight around I I just

1103
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:03,849
get crazy with it get a couple black

1104
00:50:09,130 --> 00:50:07,250
yeah get a couple blasters I was talking

1105
00:50:10,750 --> 00:50:09,140
to my buddy Kyle who appears on the show

1106
00:50:12,339 --> 00:50:10,760
sometimes about why we like the

1107
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:12,349
originals why we think there's some work

1108
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:14,089
much more interesting than the prequels

1109
00:50:17,950 --> 00:50:15,890
and he made a great point about the

1110
00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:17,960
jedis you know in the original trilogy

1111
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:20,660
the jedis are like mystics and Zen gurus

1112
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:22,460
that harness a special energy force

1113
00:50:25,809 --> 00:50:24,530
they're almost like shamanistic but in

1114
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:25,819
the prequels they're basically just

1115
00:50:30,250 --> 00:50:28,400
soldiers in a war and policemen and they

1116
00:50:31,690 --> 00:50:30,260
lost that esoteric edge that made him so

1117
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:31,700
interesting I thought that really nailed

1118
00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:35,210
it um yeah I see what you're you're

1119
00:50:39,069 --> 00:50:36,920
getting that in the in the in the

1120
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:39,079
prequels they're like two soldiers

1121
00:50:44,799 --> 00:50:42,710
applause you're being manipulated yeah

1122
00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:44,809
but then you know the introductions to

1123
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:49,190
them with the the middle three that we

1124
00:50:56,349 --> 00:50:54,020
love so much they are you know they're

1125
00:51:01,450 --> 00:50:56,359
the war is over and you know they're

1126
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:01,460
just they're monks so and it is more of

1127
00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:05,690
a mystical also because they didn't have

1128
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:08,809
the special effects you know they were

1129
00:51:15,789 --> 00:51:11,450
hit up it's like I don't think we can

1130
00:51:20,289 --> 00:51:15,799
get oh we want to do that / with the

1131
00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:20,299
wires are giving let's just give them

1132
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:23,270
some cool line and call it a day yeah

1133
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:26,329
let him just say some solute is shared

1134
00:51:33,339 --> 00:51:30,890
and we bring in Yoda over here and we'll

1135
00:51:35,799 --> 00:51:33,349
just have Luke running around and

1136
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:35,809
getting all sweaty and [\h__\h] and all

1137
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:40,130
swampy and maybe we'll have a meditating

1138
00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:40,610
we won't

1139
00:51:45,070 --> 00:51:42,950
explain it so let explain the fourth

1140
00:51:47,170 --> 00:51:45,080
digit patience right right why do you

1141
00:51:50,530 --> 00:51:47,180
explain it yeah and then chill here

1142
00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:50,540
exactly so then in the prequel they just

1143
00:51:55,450 --> 00:51:52,790
explained everything away oh it's too

1144
00:51:59,410 --> 00:51:55,460
many cards I am in all the loving about

1145
00:52:01,330 --> 00:51:59,420
midi-chlorians yeah well it's actually

1146
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,340
it's actually kind of funny because

1147
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:03,440
there's a constant battle between like

1148
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:07,130
science versus mysticism and that first

1149
00:52:10,690 --> 00:52:09,170
trilogy had something special in it and

1150
00:52:11,950 --> 00:52:10,700
then they basically came and they yeah

1151
00:52:14,110 --> 00:52:11,960
like you said they over explained

1152
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:14,120
everything they let science take over

1153
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:17,320
and they really took out there the

1154
00:52:23,590 --> 00:52:19,850
deeper messages that I thought were in

1155
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:23,600
those movies yeah there was more of a

1156
00:52:29,350 --> 00:52:25,310
you know we had more of a mysticism and

1157
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:29,360
fantasy in general you know point of

1158
00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:33,290
view in general back in the 80s and then

1159
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:36,260
as the prequels you know came in there

1160
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:38,960
the technology was changing and yet you

1161
00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:41,810
know you so like you could hug Chewbacca

1162
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:44,150
like you can go and like take shots go

1163
00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:46,310
and like take some shots at you baka you

1164
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:48,830
know yeah but I like you know then you

1165
00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:52,730
have all the CGI in the prequels you

1166
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:54,670
know there's no there's no tangibility

1167
00:53:00,640 --> 00:52:57,770
and you feel very standoff you know

1168
00:53:04,210 --> 00:53:00,650
standoffish standoffish you feel very

1169
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:04,220
separated from its so and and you know

1170
00:53:09,130 --> 00:53:06,860
the acting bed they needed habited

1171
00:53:11,590 --> 00:53:09,140
forward you know Harrison Ford if they

1172
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:11,600
had ireson Ford maybe maybe would have

1173
00:53:17,050 --> 00:53:13,400
been okay everything would have been

1174
00:53:20,260 --> 00:53:17,060
salvaged but so you know content mr.

1175
00:53:23,140 --> 00:53:20,270
chemistry manage it's the real life

1176
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:23,150
chemistry that makes us those movies

1177
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:28,970
worth watching um and I love you and

1178
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:35,390
McGregor yeah but yeah but and I love

1179
00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:39,050
meeting aspects of it I think I I really

1180
00:53:46,510 --> 00:53:43,400
dug the I like the third one I thought I

1181
00:53:49,060 --> 00:53:46,520
liked and turning into too dark that's

1182
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:49,070
what that was cool and I actually topher

1183
00:53:56,060 --> 00:53:53,700
grace made a version where he took

1184
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:56,070
little bit of the first one a lot of the

1185
00:53:59,930 --> 00:53:58,200
second one and a lot of the third one

1186
00:54:02,500 --> 00:53:59,940
and made one movie out of it and it's

1187
00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:02,510
[\h__\h] brilliant personally I seen it

1188
00:54:08,090 --> 00:54:06,030
yeah yeah it's it's a accent movie worth

1189
00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:08,100
watching it's like action from from head

1190
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:13,320
to toe and it totally takes out you know

1191
00:54:18,050 --> 00:54:15,570
the little kid and really makes it more

1192
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:18,060
about you know basically it's a mirror

1193
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:20,430
of Luke's journey except it's in the

1194
00:54:28,010 --> 00:54:22,110
opposite direction and it's [\h__\h]

1195
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,020
great let's go so yeah yeah so if you

1196
00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:30,480
didn't see that at some point in your

1197
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:33,960
life I can hunt that down it's got a lot

1198
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:37,290
of transits yeah we got to find the

1199
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:40,890
hypnotist that's been tricky he's been

1200
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:46,710
tricky but uh I don't know I i totally

1201
00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:49,050
recommend i mean i can i can make a call

1202
00:54:53,690 --> 00:54:51,780
phone call the toefl for you if you want

1203
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:53,700
to see it yeah yeah I got it what here

1204
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:55,650
look what the hell what what time is it

1205
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,280
what the [\h__\h] enjoy dad it's 1156 I was

1206
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:01,440
just about to say we are about about

1207
00:55:09,020 --> 00:55:05,910
done here wow that okay yeah the our

1208
00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:09,030
kind of flew by man that's good man good

1209
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:10,920
talking to you yeah thanks for doing

1210
00:55:14,570 --> 00:55:12,420
this you know I had a great time thanks

1211
00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:14,580
for sharing Don peyote with me thanks

1212
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:16,140
for making the movie shining a light on

1213
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:17,760
the conspiracy movement now many people

1214
00:55:21,890 --> 00:55:19,650
are doing that drawn some attention to

1215
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:21,900
pinch backs work also a noble cause

1216
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:23,970
where can people see the movie it's not

1217
00:55:30,530 --> 00:55:26,910
out yet right no it's going to be out in

1218
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:30,540
May and select movie theaters and it's

1219
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:36,290
going to be on VOD right before then and

1220
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:38,900
so it's coming up soon in the springtime

1221
00:55:44,180 --> 00:55:42,570
nice well good deal dan you're a pimp

1222
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:44,190
and a gentleman thanks again for doing

1223
00:55:48,830 --> 00:55:46,910
this things you're making the movie and

1224
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:48,840
hopefully you know we've inspired some

1225
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:50,610
people to quit those day jobs and live a

1226
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:54,780
more creative path and hopefully that

1227
00:55:57,470 --> 00:55:56,130
movie inspired some people to hop down

1228
00:56:00,620 --> 00:55:57,480
the rabbit hole if they haven't already

1229
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:00,630
you know right oh man absolutely let's

1230
00:56:07,549 --> 00:56:03,030
let's let's do it all right that's what

1231
00:56:10,699 --> 00:56:07,559
I'm peyote revolution begins cool man

1232
00:56:12,949 --> 00:56:10,709
thanks again take care of yourself okay

1233
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:12,959
you too buddy there you have it people

1234
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:14,430
know startling revelations about

1235
00:56:17,749 --> 00:56:15,930
reptilians in the White House or the

1236
00:56:19,579 --> 00:56:17,759
lost city of Atlantis but just some good

1237
00:56:21,259 --> 00:56:19,589
stoner fun and I think it's important to

1238
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:21,269
support any opportunity to put the

1239
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:23,369
conspiracy world in the mainstream and I

1240
00:56:27,499 --> 00:56:25,079
hope you agree and decide to check out

1241
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:27,509
the movie we all know money talks and if

1242
00:56:31,759 --> 00:56:29,369
we support ventures like Don peyote and

1243
00:56:33,620 --> 00:56:31,769
THC then more alternative media can

1244
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:33,630
exist and we might get a little more

1245
00:56:37,789 --> 00:56:35,819
crazy conspiracy and a little less about

1246
00:56:40,009 --> 00:56:37,799
last night and that's a world that I'd